But my email, calendar, document storage and search are all by Google because they are making excellent software. Truthfully I was angry about it, they were totally resistant to the idea of making an android version and as I live in Canada, they were going to be the first and only option for VNC’S etc for a long time. This is not clear. Yes, Android has been shipping millions of phones lately, and that gets a lot of headlines. I love the Nexus 7. But two stand out: tablets and the nature of aviation app developers. apple is not any more powerful then android in fact, devices have been made for android that are more powerful then the iPhone or ipad. Right now Foreflight is the best aviation app. If the android apps catch the ipad apps, which they will do, and the hardware is 1/3 the cost, where will the ipad be? I bought the functionality and usability of the application. However, the iPad version is just fine, and would probably have a larger market share if they designed the interface to look a bit fancier, like Garmin Pilot or ForeFlight. Almost sounds more like a market monoply rather than a software issue to me. Also: GPS status, Terrain/Elevation Maps, 50 Nearest airports, Obstacles, and more. This is certainly an opportunity to use ForeFlight app on your iPhone or iPad. I agree with most of your points. 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I just want Google to start acting like the heavyweight that they are, because they really could give Apple a run for their money if they tried. It’s easy to build an ADS-B receiver from the parts list, or there are many inexpensive pre-built options available.. Stratux-based ADS-B receivers are the only full-featured receivers on the market that are compatible with every major EFB. The more we learn from folks about why they are not renewing their ForeFlight subscription, the more we can do to improve our product and service experience. Android certainly isn’t fatally flawed, and only a fool would write off a smart company like Google. 90% of all the apple apps are useless in the rest of the world. Coke or Pepsi? Can Android ever catch iOS in aviation? Sorry, i think, iOS is a losing system! While some people view that as a bad thing, I disagree. The tablet is easy to use, the display more crisp than the Ipad, and the size is perfect. My point was and is that developers should meke apps for both platforms or they will be left behind. In that time, they’ve sold nearly 100 million iPads. Garmin is the exception, with a fairly comprehensive Android version of their Garmin Pilot app for iPad and iPhone. We immediately delete the page because there is never anything for android! I think the kindle would be a better approach plate device if it wasnt so difficult to transfer to. To quote your article, I have both the iPad mini and the Nexus tablet. Get them in the door. I think a lot of us have iPads just for foreflight but we use android devices on a regular basis so you can plan your flight, check weather, etc with this strategy and send it to your iPad for use in the plane. One thing the universally like is my panel setup, with a Nexus 7 tablet mounted just to the right of my instrument stack running Garmin Pilot and interfaced with a GDL 39. As usual, we had a few requests for more Android content (and we will be covering some Android apps in the near future). They both have issues but overall the Nexus is far more user friendly. As with another user here, I didn't care for the Garmin application. I hate Apple because they choose to rip off the client for what should clearly be included in a product.. Nexus 7 pad with gas etc $179, the equivalent in Apple $549!!! I order from Sporty’s, they are a good company, they mostly do a good job in their selection of merchandise. I’m not suggesting Apple’s business model is better than Google’s and I’m not suggesting iPad pilots are better than Android pilots. 9.Air Navigation Pro. Some FAA Charts cover Puerto Rico, plus parts of Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean. ForeFlight iOS vs Garmin Pilot Android. Watch the Videos. Anyone who has this issue will get the notification of "Unable to verify Update, iOS 14 failed verification because you are no longer connected to the internet" on the device screen. Right now, my mobile devices are all Apple because I think they’re making excellent hardware. It is available on 3 platforms. The majority of pilots come to me with IPads running Foreflight or WingX, but many finally opted to take their checkride using paper charts anyway. Remember Sony Betamax vs VHS. Welcome to our Support Center. I chose this over Foreflight because it doesn’t charge an annual fee. This is not zero sum, it’s a debate about who has more market share right now. It’s not an issue of performance–half of them run it well if you can hack them– but Google allows the phone companies (Verizon, AT&T, etc) too much leverage. ForeFlight doesn’t typically receive and ingest the data until 4 or 5 minutes after this issuance time. Forgot your password? Gotta say, I like the Androids versatility, and the apples stability. Major aviation app developers seem to agree–ForeFlight has no app for Android and WingX’s Android app looks to be on life support. My Nexus 7 can take extra memory no problem for 1/3 the price. Just look at how fast features are being added to the major apps for iPad, and how many accessories are hitting the market. That will allow us to tailor our response. We didn’t port the app at all; it was written from scratch for Android. If Apple is winning the hardware war, they’re also winning the software side. As we do from time to time at iPad Pilot News, we recently asked our readers for feedback: what topics are important, what needs more attention, etc. Quiz: Your iPad just quit on you in flight, now what? Stratux is free software that enables DIY and low cost ADS-B receivers for pilots. The Android developer is forced to support a much larger number of hardware/software combinations. The Nexus 7 has a crisp brighter display and lasts all day.The internal GPS in the cockpit is flawless while Geo referencing the maps and plates with Garmin. Stratux ADS-B receiver software for pilots. Heck Sporty’s should offer the many free apps to get buyers to their web site, like a loss leader at a retail store. Apple does not have better processors actually they are way behind the curve on that. The hardware platform is only a small part of the overall experience. I think we should be thankful for that, regardless of the OS we fly with. *Note: Like all apps for portable devices, Avare is not FAA certified for primary navigation but may be used as outlined in FAA documents. Kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. Why do you think they developed an app for Android? Distribute chart tiles that replace the default base tile layer in MapKit or in Android’s Maps SDK. One of the most common issues is discussed here: iOS 14 update not connected to internet. Jeff, I think it’s important to remember how good we’ve got it. You have to select Account &Subscription -> Last Sync. The new samsung note 8.0 will be the best tab on the market and aviationmaps app is very very good. VATSIM - Virtual Air Traffic Simulation Network is a nonprofit organization that operates a live ATC network noted for its active membership and realism. • Once the XGPS170 appears in the list of devices, tap the device name in the list. At Sporty’s we’ll continue to develop apps for Android; we just completed one for Sun ‘n Fun and more are coming. The UI and bug issues are a result of the fragmentation issue. “Those that don’t learn their history are doomed to repeat it”. In my experience, the Android platform are much more versatile than the Apple ones (usb access, etc). Also keep in mind I would be willing to bet the vast majority of pilots use their tablets as a secondary back up to their GPS or other devise, so it is not primary. I use android as my daily driver and have DroidEFB for backup or for small local flights and a Stratus 3. But for how long? John, Operating systems continue to evolve, just look at the problems with Apples new OS. I believe that if Aspen would introduce a “connected cockpit” version for the Android as they have for the Apple, they would see a significant shift in sales. I carry in reserve my own Nexus 7 with the Garmin Pilot program. We continue to develop Android apps (including free ones) and sell Garmin’s Android app (which is getting better). This app focuses on North America. Do you know of any other good alternative for us, “aliens”? All of this is Completely Free with no ads. Our Pilot's Guide to ForeFlight Mobile answers many questions related to our flagship app. Background… Was on a recent flight to Oshkosh for the airshow and I had my trusty Google Nexus7 tablet with the Garmin Pilot app. ForeFlight support articles, product guides, training resources, and frequently asked questions. “As we do from time to time at iPad Pilot News, we recently asked our readers for feedback: what topics are important, what needs more attention, etc. The aviation community is a somewhat first mover market, as well as willing to pay more for similar capabilities. Just look at the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon, just 2 weeks ago you couldn’t get 4.2 on it–That’s more than four months to update a “Nexus” device. Did I mention I HATE Apple? SkyDemon is a popular EU app. ForeFlight is the integrated flight app with all the essentials for VFR & IFR route planning, flight plan filing, and flying in Europe. Garmin is the exception, with a fairly comprehensive Android version of their Garmin Pilot app for iPad and iPhone. It is FREE! As a developer there are a lot of things to like about Android. 234 May 28, 2020 If your aircraft is not equipped with an ADS-B Out system, ATC can rebroadcast your Mode-C target to nearby ADS-B Out equipped aircraft. I also run ForeFlight on the iPad and the iPhone. Decent but not worth it Just not worth the price, I found Aviation Weather Elite more valuable by A Google User the 8/26/2012 Last Update A Year Ago This app hasn't been updated in almost a year and hasn't had any updated functionality since it launched 2 years ago. ForeFlight, for example, uses an FBTiles server app we developed in house to send chart bits to ForeFlight Mobile. Could be the almost 2-years they were on the market before a viable Android tablet ever existed. If there were more aviation apps for the android market I would prefere to us the tablet. In order to support the mind-numbing variety if screen sizes, screen resolutions, processor speeds and OS levels (2.2 up to 4.x) we have to cater to the lowest common denominator. Create one for free Simply because the Apple PCs have more powerful processors and are far more reliable than Windows and Android platforms. I fly in a 135 operation which the FAA has only approved the iPad with Foreflight. Please note that your response to this survey is not monitored for technical help requests or questions. If you’re Facebook, you have the resources to create an app for both platforms (and Windows and Blackberry, too). Legal and logistical issues aside, I'm not sure why ForeFlight would want the headache of having to support their application on platform(s), including jail broken iOS devices, which are not officially supported by the manufacturers, are likely not as stable, and do not offer the integrated workflow advantages of an approved distribution channel. But hey that is OK, someone else will and is taking up the slack. Garmin uses separate development teams. I have in the last year used about 10 different models of Android phones that will never see the latest distribution of Android. In 2010, I bought ForeFlight, not an iPad or an Android or any other hardware platform. I am an Airline Pilot and we use iPads now as Electronic Library. We have answered many common questions on those pages. These are worthy competitors to the iPad, but by now Apple has a three year lead. 2. And BTW, I used to run Apple until I became so disgusted in how they rape you for the “extras” and under deliver for too much money. I am seeing however, more and more Android based platforms–especially with the introduction of the larger screen Samsung products–into the cockpit. I use both as situatioan awareness, as neither would i count on as a primary device. I have been frustrated with the lack of Android software support from the aviation communities such as Sporty’s and even AOPA (until recently), but I think that can change. So who is reading their stories, answering polls etc. I’d really like if Garmin Pilot would be the same on both devices…but it is not…and I’d really like to have foreflight on Android, basically only for the stratus receivers compatibility. Same as above, I have an Ipad mini and a Note 2 with Garmin pilot on both. Google has tacitly admitted this, and has started designing its own hardware, including the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. My friend had his ever faithful iPad with the ForeFlight app. Our Pilot's Guide to ForeFlight Mobile answers many questions related to our flagship app. many valid points here but a simple fact that remain for those who are more techy will know. Android. We have answered many common questions on those pages. I believe in the long run, Android will be on top…it just will take time. What gets lost in all the talk about phone shipments is the importance of tablets–that’s where the battle is being fought. The whole thing is a shame really. As for Android becoming the Betamax? If you are unable to send emails to us, please use the contact form here. The screen is brighter than the iPad (and the brand new Nexus 7 model has an HD display). I have the iPad3, Asus Transformer 10, Nexus7 and a Samsung S3! Quiz: What do these aviation iPad acronyms mean? Foreflight is definatly the most polished and clean looking EFB out there with a lot of support. […] A lire sur ipadpilotnews.com/2013/04/why-android-is-losing-in-aviation/ […]. Samsung in particular is closing the hardware gap, and Google is suddenly very serious about good design in their apps. The cost of the application is the Application plus Hardware plus Network connectivity. Now before before this devolves into a holy war, let me assure you I’m not trying to make a cultural statement. The tablet with think for a few moments and then say “Paired but not connected.” • If you have Android … Yet at the same time Garmin, FltPlan and others have very good apps for both. Its only a question of time! Here’s my perspective – our lead Android developer is a passionate pilot and Android guy. It’s a choice based on what works for me, not some attempt to define my personality based on brands. But if you only have 1-10 developers on staff, it’s a different story. But, alas, that is not the case and so I am forced to use the iPad in the cockpit. I’ve had a few of each divice. And when other apps like Garmin Pilot catch up and Foreflight doesn’t even have a horse in the race, no android app, how long will they survive? Ridiculous! Don't have a ForeFlight ID? I wish it were more successful in terms of sales. In fact, I think most people invest far too much in the Apple vs. Google argument. I ran the iFly software on my android phone and tablet for a year or so, and ran Garmin Pilot also. I do accelerated 7-day IFR training and have had the opportunity to see and use many different tablet configurations. Unfortunately, it was so far behind the iPad version as to be less capable than many of the free Android aviation apps that it wasn’t worth using. Creating an Android app isn’t a small step–it’s usually almost 100% more work to do it well. Report Save. In fact I have both the iOS and Android version of Sporty’s E6B app, which brings me to another important issue. The truth is both platforms (and companies) have pluses and minuses. For the record, I’m not biased against Android. But overall, these pilots are in the minority. Why do I see a “ghost” aircraft mirroring me in ForeFlight Mobile while I am using my Stratus portable ADS-B receiver? We have created helpful training videos that can answer many questions about using ForeFlight Mobile. I don’t think the orphaned devices are as big a problem (there are some very junky Android devices) as the way Google handles its ecosystem. Follow the money trail… Dealers don’t like to stock two or ten different products. The iPad was WiFi only, so needed an external GPS for moving map and ADS-B device for weather etc. I think the problem comes in that some developers are just putting all their eggs in one basket. Recently, I switched over to a “complete Apple” outfit (McBook Pro, iPad, iPhone4) and just loving it. For the most part it is “build it and they will come” problem; ie. Works well in the cockpit. It is essential to know which iPad is best to use with the ForeFlight app before buying an iPad. Not the better product (Betamax) but the one that was more user friendly, less expensive, and not monopolized by one company. There will be no competition and advancement if pilots stop buying Android or Windows systems. But when I can get a more capable tablet with better features for less that a third what an Apple costs, believe me I’m sticking with a Android based tablet. Apple has gotten access to a big market now since many airlines are applying for similar libraries and Android is far behind the power curve. Hello! I have switched to the garmin app on both my ipad and my Note 2. Eventually one will dominate. ForeFlight Mobile update App updates can be downloaded from the Apple App Store. Companies like Sporty’s, and Foreflight will be caught lacking with a falling market.